Legislature(2019 - 2020)ADAMS ROOM 519

02/05/2020 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:34:17 PM Start
01:35:15 PM Fy 20 Supplemental Budget Overview
03:03:52 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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*+ HB 234 APPROP:SUPP; REAPPROP; CAP; AMEND; CBR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ FY 20 Supplemental Budget Overview by Neil TELECONFERENCED
Steininger, Director, Office of Management &
Budget, Office of the Governor
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 5, 2020                                                                                           
                         1:34 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:34 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Co-Chair                                                                                      
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Gary Knopp                                                                                                       
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Kelly Merrick                                                                                                    
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard                                                                                         
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Neil Steininger, Director, Office  of Management and Budget,                                                                    
Office   of   the   Governor;  Craig   Christenson,   Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner, Department  of Military and  Veterans Affairs;                                                                    
Sana  Efird, Assistant  Commissioner,  Department of  Health                                                                    
and Social Services;  Amanda Price, Commissioner, Department                                                                    
of  Public  Safety;  Colonel   Bryan  Barlow,  Alaska  State                                                                    
Troopers, Department  of Public Safety; Leon  Morgan, Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner,  Department of  Public Safety;  Mike Barnhill,                                                                    
Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of  Revenue; Dom  Pannone,                                                                    
Administrative    Services     Director,    Department    of                                                                    
Transportation and Public Facilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 234    APPROP:SUPP; REAPPROP; CAP; AMEND; CBR                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          HB 234 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
FY 20 Supplemental Budget Overview                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the agenda for the day.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
#234                                                                                                                            
HOUSE BILL NO. 234                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An    Act    making    supplemental    appropriations,                                                                    
     reappropriations,  and  other appropriations;  amending                                                                    
     appropriations;     capitalizing      funds;     making                                                                    
     appropriations under art.  IX, sec. 17(c), Constitution                                                                    
     of the State of  Alaska, from the constitutional budget                                                                    
    reserve fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^FY 20 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET OVERVIEW                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:35:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE   OF   THE   GOVERNOR,  introduced   the   PowerPoint                                                                    
Presentation:  "FY  20  Supplemental  Budget  Overview."  He                                                                    
began with slide 2 titled Supplemental Bill:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          Supplemental bill comprised of two parts:                                                                             
          Urgent/emergency response: $241,931.7 UGF                                                                             
          Regular supplement: $20,615.0 UGF                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Total: $262,546.7 UGF, $507,910.4 All Funds                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger explained  that  the  supplemental bill  was                                                                    
broken into 2 parts. The  first section dealt with urgent or                                                                    
emergent responses where the money was needed soon.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:37:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  moved to slide  3 titled  UGF  Operating and                                                                    
Capital  Budgets with  Supplementals from  FY 19  to FY  21                                                                     
that contained  a bar  chart. He  provided some  context for                                                                    
the supplemental  bill. The  FY 19  budget inclusive  of the                                                                    
supplemental budget  totaled $4.9 billion, the  FY 20 budget                                                                    
inclusive  of the  supplemental totaled  $4.67 billion,  and                                                                    
the FY 21 governors   request inclusive of the supplementals                                                                    
totaled $4.6 billion.  The budget equated to  a reduction of                                                                    
$238.8 million  between FY 19 and  FY 20 and a  reduction of                                                                    
$70.3  million  between  FY  20  and  FY  21;  both  figures                                                                    
included the supplemental budgets.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked about the statutory  oil tax credits.                                                                    
He  asked  Mr.  Steininger whether  the  administration  had                                                                    
considered that  a portion  of the  reduction between  FY 19                                                                    
and FY 20  was due to not  paying oil tax credits  in FY 19.                                                                    
He noted  that either the  statutory or debt  service amount                                                                    
of the oil tax credits would be  paid in FY 21. He asked Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  to comment.  Mr. Steininger  responded that  the                                                                    
total    reflected   a   clear   picture   of   total   UGF                                                                     
(Unrestricted  General   Fund)  spent  in  FY   19.  He  was                                                                    
uncertain  about the  tax credit  payments. Co-Chair  Foster                                                                    
suggested that the  total FY 21 UGF spend  could increase by                                                                    
approximately $55  million with the  addition of an  oil tax                                                                    
credit payment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:39:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  turned to slide 4  titled  Supplemental Bill                                                                    
  Urgent/Emergency Response Items:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          Dept. of Natural Resources                                                                                            
          Fire, Land, and Water Resources; Fire                                                                                 
          Suppression: $110,500.0 UGF                                                                                           
       Dept. of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                            
       Operating: Highway, Aviation and Facilities.                                                                             
          Northern Highways Dalton Highway/Atigun Pass:                                                                         
          $158.1 UGF                                                                                                            
          Capital: Knik-Goose Bay Road: $2,000.0 UGF                                                                            
          Reappropriation                                                                                                       
          Capital: Earthquake Relief  Federally                                                                                 
          Ineligible: $3,000.0 UGF                                                                                              
          Dept. of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                
          Capital Mass Notification:                                                                                            
          $900.0 UGF  Reappropriation                                                                                           
          Dept. of Health and Social Services                                                                                   
       Medicaid Services; Medicaid: $128,273.6 UGF,                                                                             
          $162,130.9 Fed                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     TOTAL: $241,931.7 UGF,   $162,130.9 Fed                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon   asked   about  the   timeline   for                                                                    
reappropriation of  funds for the Capital  Mass Notification                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
CRAIG  CHRISTENSON,   DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
MILITARY  AND  VETERANS  AFFAIRS, responded  that  the  work                                                                    
would  begin   in  FY  20   and  continue  through   FY  21.                                                                    
Representative  LeBon  asked  whether additional  staff  was                                                                    
required  for completion  of  the  project. Mr.  Christenson                                                                    
replied   that   the   work   would   be   contracted   out.                                                                    
Representative  LeBon asked  how much  was allotted  for the                                                                    
contracted  services.  Mr.  Christenson  answered  that  the                                                                    
split  between  the  state and  federal  government  was  50                                                                    
percent, the  total cost was  approximately $1.3  million to                                                                    
$1.8 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:42:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston asked about the  figure of $16 million for                                                                    
fire suppression.  She wondered  if the amount  included the                                                                    
fires  burning underground.  Mr.  Steininger responded  that                                                                    
the  fire  suppression  dollars in  the  supplemental  would                                                                    
apply to  potential fires  in the  spring of  2020. Co-Chair                                                                    
Johnston asked if  the amount was the states   total cost of                                                                    
fire  suppression  keeping in  mind  the  state and  federal                                                                    
governments  split the  cost. Mr.  Steininger affirmed  that                                                                    
the number reflected the total cost.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:44:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   turned  to   slide  5   titled   Medicaid:                                                                    
Ambitious Goals:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Governor's FY20 budget had ambitious savings targets                                                                       
     for Medicaid based on changes to several elements                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Reduced provider payments                                                                                             
          Withhold payment inflation adjustments                                                                                
          Elimination of adult preventative dental benefit                                                                      
          Timely filing allowance                                                                                               
          Transportation efficiencies                                                                                           
          Tribal claiming                                                                                                       
          Other efforts                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  delineated that the  status quo  estimate of                                                                    
Medicaid spending needs  made on November 30,  2018 was $683                                                                    
million. Through the  legislative process, the appropriation                                                                    
was reduced to  $574.6 million and further  vetoed to $516.3                                                                    
million.  The  Department  of  Health  and  Social  Services                                                                    
(DHSS) had  various plans to achieve  the reductions through                                                                    
adjustments  to optional  services. Many  of the  reductions                                                                    
were   difficult   to   implement  and   difficulties   were                                                                    
encountered  with  medical  providers and  federal  approval                                                                    
resulting  in failure  to produce  the reductions.  He noted                                                                    
that  many services  the department  believed were  optional                                                                    
were  not. Mr.  Steininger  reviewed the  chart  on slide  6                                                                    
titled Medicaid: Realized Savings:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     FY2020 ambitious savings goal of $166,707.7 UGF was                                                                        
     not realized.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Even after supplemental, FY2020 Medicaid spending is                                                                       
     still substantially reduced                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          11/30/18 FY2020 Projection $ 683,038.4 UGF                                                                            
          Provider rate reductions $ (17,716.9)                                                                                 
          Savings through tribal claiming $ (20,100.0)                                                                          
          Savings thru pharmacy and Medicare Part B                                                                             
            $(5,538.0)                                                                                                          
          Other utilization changes $ 4,919.9                                                                                   
          FY2020 Projected Total $ 644,603.4                                                                                    
         Projected Savings in FY2020 $ (38,435.0)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  reported  that savings  amounted  to  $38.4                                                                    
million instead of the projected $166.7 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked  if  the  fast-track  supplemental                                                                    
accounted for the  lawsuit brought on by  the providers. Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  answered in  the affirmative.  Co-Chair Johnston                                                                    
asked for  the court  case amount. Mr.  Steininger responded                                                                    
that the amount was $900 million UGF.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:47:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  highlighted the  graph  on  slide 7  titled                                                                    
 Medicaid:  General Fund  Cash  Flow.  He  pointed out  that                                                                    
weekly  UGF   Medicaid  spending  was  $13.7   million,  and                                                                    
contrary to  the statement on  the slide, it  was improbable                                                                    
there was enough funding for  the entire third quarter of FY                                                                    
20. The statement on the slide was as follows:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      Insufficient funding to get through last quarter of                                                                       
     FY 2020 absent supplemental.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   advanced  to  slide  8   titled   Medicaid                                                                    
Spending: FY  2004 through FY  2021.  He commented  that the                                                                    
slide was  included by request.  The bar chart  depicted the                                                                    
growth of the  program in cost and  number of beneficiaries,                                                                    
inclusive of all funds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  thanked Mr. Steininger for  including the                                                                    
chart. She  relayed that the  state was serving  more people                                                                    
at  the same  cost and  believed the  slide illustrated  the                                                                    
 full picture   between UGF and federal  receipts. She added                                                                    
that while  the recipients  had grown  the states   cost had                                                                    
not.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz   concurred  with   Co-Chair   Johnstons                                                                     
previously stated observations regarding slide 8.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool added  that not  only were  more people                                                                    
being served, it also positively affected Alaska's economy.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston commented  that the  state had  learned a                                                                    
valuable  lesson which  was that  the state  could not  make                                                                    
reductions in  the program without engaging  in consultation                                                                    
and  negotiations with  its  [healthcare]  partners and  the                                                                    
Centers  for  Medicare  and  Medicaid  Services  (CMS).  The                                                                    
current  supplemental was  an  acknowledgement that  savings                                                                    
could not be achieved by one-sided budget cuts.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger discussed the  regular supplemental items. He                                                                    
turned to slide 10  titled  Supplemental Bill: Department of                                                                    
Administration:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $1,700.0 UGF, $550.0 DGF                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
               Legal and Advocacy Services, Office of                                                                           
            Public Advocacy Caseload growth and                                                                                 
               operational cost: $1,700.0 UGF                                                                                   
               Division of Motor Vehicles                                                                                       
               Document security and preservation system:                                                                       
               $50.0 DGF                                                                                                        
               Anchorage office location move: $500.0 DGF                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger reviewed slide  11 titled "Supplemental Bill:                                                                    
Department    of    Commerce,   Community    and    Economic                                                                    
Development:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Capital Total: $45,526.1 Fed                                                                                               
           Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Community                                                                        
           Development Block Grant, Disaster Recovery                                                                           
           Program: $38,856.0 Fed                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPR-A) Impact                                                                     
           Grants: $6,670.1 Fed                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger addressed slide 12 titled "Supplemental                                                                          
Bill: Department of Corrections (DOC):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $8,025.7 Fed                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
           Population Management, Anchorage Correctional                                                                        
           Complex Add carryforward language: $8,025.7 Fed                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           Population Management, Palmer Correctional                                                                           
          Center Extend appropriation for Palmer                                                                                
          Correctional Center efforts (FY20-FY21)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger reported that additional language regarding                                                                      
the opening of the Palmer Correctional Facility was                                                                             
included in the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to slide 13 titled "Supplemental                                                                       
Bill: Department of Education and Early Development:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $100.0 UGF, $150.0 DGF, $10,000.0 Fed                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
           Education Support and Administrative Services,                                                                       
           Student and School Achievement Additional                                                                            
           federal receipts for U.S. Dept. of Education                                                                         
           grants: $10,000.0 Fed                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Mt. Edgecumbe Boarding School, MEHS Facilities                                                                       
           Maintenance Operational and maintenance costs                                                                        
           for MEHS Aquatic Center: $100.0 UGF, $150.0 DGF                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger turned to slide 14 titled "Supplemental                                                                          
Bill: Office of the Governor:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $233.4 UGF Capital Total:$3,700.0                                                                         
     Other Operating                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Executive Operations, Lieutenant Governor Voter                                                                      
           initiative public hearings: $18.0 UGF                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Elections Voter initiative review, certification                                                                     
          and                                                                                                                   
         language translation: $215.4 UGF Capital                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           Help America Vote Act: $3,700.0 Other                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  continued to  slide 15  titled "Supplemental                                                                    
Bill: Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS):                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $15,600.0 UGF                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           Alaska Pioneer Homes, APH Payment Assistance                                                                         
         Alaska Pioneer Homes payment assistance:                                                                               
           $1,000.0 UGF                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Alaska Psychiatric Institute                                                                                         
          Add authority to achieve full capacity:                                                                               
           $6,000.0 UGF                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Public Assistance, Adult Public Assistance                                                                           
          Restore Adult Public Assistance payment                                                                               
           maintenance of effort requirements:                                                                                  
           $8,600.0 UGF                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:55:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston  asked  when the  Alaska  Pioneers  Homes                                                                    
would run out of money in the current fiscal year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:55:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANA  EFIRD, ASSISTANT  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH                                                                    
AND   SOCIAL  SERVICES,   replied  that   the  funding   was                                                                    
sufficient  through May  and was  not as  time sensitive  as                                                                    
other  items.  Currently,  DHSS was  spending  roughly  $2.3                                                                    
million  on average  per month  from the  Payment Assistance                                                                    
Program to support the residents  in need of assistance. Co-                                                                    
Chair  Johnston wondered  what the  state  had budgeted  for                                                                    
payment assistance.  Ms. Efird answered that  the budget was                                                                    
$25.9  million, and  the current  request added  $1 million.                                                                    
The department was being very  conservative with the request                                                                    
of  $1  million.  Co-Chair Johnston  noted  that  the  state                                                                    
partnered  with  the  federal  government  for  the  payment                                                                    
assistance  program. She  asked  whether  the state  assumed                                                                    
extra costs when  it attempted to change  the maintenance of                                                                    
effort. Ms.  Efird replied that  two items within  the Adult                                                                    
Public  Assistance  (APA)  program had  changed  that  would                                                                    
affect  the  assistance  program.  She  explained  that  the                                                                    
department  attempted  to  change the  methodology  for  the                                                                    
maintenance  of effort  amounts through  APA, which  was the                                                                    
match  for the  Medicaid program.  The department  wanted to                                                                    
return to the 1983 standard  and submitted a plan amendment.                                                                    
The CMS  discovered that the state  had made miscalculations                                                                    
on  the  payments since  1995  that  resulted in  a  further                                                                    
reduction  in residents   assistance payments.  The governor                                                                    
did  not want  the mistake  to impact  the residents  with a                                                                    
deeper reduction.  Therefore, a cost of  living increase was                                                                    
added  to  current  expenditures.  The  department  was  not                                                                    
currently  adding administrative  costs and  was redirecting                                                                    
resources  via diverting  staff to  ensure the  calculations                                                                    
for residents  were correct.  Co-Chair Johnston  asked about                                                                    
time sensitivity for the item.  Ms. Efird responded that the                                                                    
funding was needed by the end of the fiscal year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:00:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Knopp asked  if occupancy  had dropped  with                                                                    
the  increase in  rates  at the  Pioneers  Homes. Ms.  Efird                                                                    
responded that 16 residents had  left but the rooms had been                                                                    
filled with  people on the  wait list.  Representative Knopp                                                                    
was pleased  because the supplemental request  was less than                                                                    
he expected.  He wondered whether  the rate  change impacted                                                                    
the  Pioneer Homes   revenue. Ms.  Efird responded  that the                                                                    
department had  seen an increase  in revenue.  She qualified                                                                    
her response. She indicated that  the exact income status of                                                                    
a resident entering the Homes  was unknown and reflected the                                                                    
department's  best projections.  The projections  were based                                                                    
on who would live in the  Homes for the reminder of the year                                                                    
and their ability to pay.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:02:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Ortiz  asked   about  the   Alaska  Psychiatric                                                                    
Institute  (API)  item.  He  wondered  if  the  request  was                                                                    
associated  with the  expansion of  the contract  with Well-                                                                    
path.  Ms.  Efird  responded  that the  request  was  for  a                                                                    
continuation  of  the  contract.   She  recounted  that  the                                                                    
contract began  in FY 19  for $1  million per month  and was                                                                    
reduced to  $750 thousand per  month through March  31, 2020                                                                    
with  an  option  to renew.  Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked  about                                                                    
details  of the  contract with  Well Path.  He asked  if the                                                                    
contract was  based on capacity  or facility use.  Ms. Efird                                                                    
was  unable to  answer and  offered  to follow  up with  the                                                                    
information. She acknowledged that  Wellpath was helping the                                                                    
state  stabilize  the  facility and  meet  requirements  for                                                                    
certification  and  licensing.  Vice-Chair  Ortiz  confirmed                                                                    
that he wanted the information.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger moved to slide  16 titled  Supplemental Bill:                                                                    
Department of Law:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total $150.0 Other, $250.0 Fed                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Criminal Division, Second Judicial District                                                                          
           Reopening Utqiagvik District Attorney's Office:                                                                      
           $150.0 Other                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Criminal Division, Criminal Appeals/Special                                                                          
           Litigation Expand prosecutions in rural Alaska:                                                                      
           $250.0 Fed                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:05:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  relayed that he had  been involved                                                                    
in reopening the  rural office in Utqiagvik.  He shared that                                                                    
recruitment   was   a   problem  and   wondered   what   the                                                                    
appropriation  was for.  Mr. Steininger  responded that  the                                                                    
request   reflected   a   partial  year's   worth   of   the                                                                    
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger reviewed slide  17 titled  Supplemental Bill:                                                                    
Department of Natural Resources (DNR):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $76.1 DGF                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
           Fire Suppression, Land, and Water Resources;                                                                         
           Mining, Land and Water Aquatic farm application                                                                      
           processing: $76.1 DGF                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  directed  attention   to  slide  18  titled                                                                    
"Supplemental Bill:  Department of Public Safety (DPS):                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $6,743.4 UGF Capital Total: $605.0                                                                        
     UGF                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Operating                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           Alaska State Troopers, AST Detachments, Alaska                                                                       
          Wildlife Troopers, and Wildlife Troopers Aircraft                                                                     
          Section - Meet FY2020 operating needs and law                                                                         
          enforcement safety equipment: $6,743.4 UGF                                                                            
          Capital                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           FAA required aircraft equipment: $105.0 UGF                                                                          
           Radio replacement: $500.0 UGF                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  about  the  personal  services                                                                    
request and wondered  how much of the  appropriation was for                                                                    
overtime.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:07:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA  PRICE, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF PUBLIC  SAFETY,                                                                    
was unable  to answer the  specific question. She  knew that                                                                    
overtime costs between FY 18  and FY 19 increased 26 percent                                                                    
and she expected an increase of  9 percent between FY 19 and                                                                    
FY 20 due to personnel shortages.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:07:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked if overtime would  be reduced as                                                                    
the  department  successfully recruited  additional  trooper                                                                    
positions.     Commissioner     Price     responded     that                                                                    
 theoretically   Representative   LeBon  was   correct.  She                                                                    
believed  that  a  correlation existed  and  expounded  that                                                                    
 common  sense  told  her that  as she  hired, trained,  and                                                                    
deployed  more  troopers,  there  would be  a  reduction  in                                                                    
overtime hours.  She noted that there  was a lag time  of 18                                                                    
months between  hiring and deployment. The  impact of hiring                                                                    
additional  troopers  would  be known  in  approximately  18                                                                    
months.   Representative LeBon asked about  the shortfall of                                                                    
nearly $2  million in FY  19. He wondered whether  the prior                                                                    
deficit  influenced  the   current  shortfall.  Commissioner                                                                    
Price was unable  to answer the question.  She was uncertain                                                                    
whether the  shortfall was related to  the personal services                                                                    
line.   She  revealed   that  historically,   DPS  had   not                                                                    
accurately  represented how  the  personal services  funding                                                                    
was spent.  She believed that  it was much  more responsible                                                                    
to  present the  actual overtime  hours rather  than use  an                                                                    
arbitrary number assigned per  trooper. She guessed that the                                                                    
shortfall   was   an    aggregate   total   reflecting   the                                                                    
departments   historic  lack  of preparation   for  managing                                                                    
necessary  overtime. Representative  LeBon  shared that  the                                                                    
DPS subcommittee had been exploring the same questions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson had  heard  that the  commissioner                                                                    
had  been having  great success  in recruiting  troopers. He                                                                    
wondered what attributed to  the success. Commissioner Price                                                                    
answered that  a  significant number of  factors contributed                                                                    
to  the  success.   She   identified  both  recruitment  and                                                                    
retention as problematic. She offered  to send the committee                                                                    
the    significant  body   of   work    that  detailed   the                                                                    
departments   comprehensive  effort  around  retention.  She                                                                    
delineated  that  most of  the  effort  was associated  with                                                                    
information,  findings, and  recommendations  from a  survey                                                                    
undertaken  by the  departments  working  group. The  effort                                                                    
identified   and   addressed   issues  related   to   moral.                                                                    
Certainly,  the increased  salary  compensation created  the                                                                    
opportunity to  attract and retain candidates,  however, the                                                                    
focus of  the effort addressed moral  issues. Currently, the                                                                    
department    had   implemented    95    percent   of    the                                                                    
recommendations it  received. She spoke of  a culture change                                                                    
in  the  recruitment arena.  The  department  had made  many                                                                    
improvements  to  inform  and communicate  effectively  with                                                                    
recruits  what DPSs   expectations  were  related to  taking                                                                    
polygraph tests and deployment in  rural Alaska. The changes                                                                    
were  successful;   the  fall  hiring  cycle   included  360                                                                    
invitations for background checks versus only 70 in 2017.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  asked the commissioner whether  she had                                                                    
hired  additional  people  in   the  DPS  recruitment  unit.                                                                    
Commissioner Price  replied in the  negative. Representative                                                                    
Wool  wondered what  percentage of  applicants were  offered                                                                    
trooper  positions.  Commissioner  Price  answered  that  it                                                                    
varied per recruitment cycle.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:14:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL BRYAN  BARLOW, ALASKA STATE TROOPERS,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
PUBLIC SAFETY,  responded that the percentage  was very low.                                                                    
He did not have a specific  number, he estimated that one to                                                                    
three percent of applicants were hired.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool asked  whether  applicants were  paying                                                                    
testing fees if  they did not get  hired. Commissioner Price                                                                    
responded   in  the   negative.  She   indicated  that   the                                                                    
department payed for application and testing fees.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked   whether  the  department  was                                                                    
creating a budget shortfall if  it hired more positions over                                                                    
the  vacancy factor.  Commissioner Price  reported that  the                                                                    
department  anticipated having  40 Position  Control Numbers                                                                    
(PCNs)  filled  over  the  number   of  PCNs  that  DPS  had                                                                    
authorized including the  15 PCNs that were  requested in FY                                                                    
21. She commented that the  success in hiring meant that the                                                                    
legislature  would  need  to decide  what  was  the  optimal                                                                    
number  of state  troopers required  for the  state and  set                                                                    
limits.  However, she  hoped  a  limit was  not  set in  the                                                                    
current year,  due to the   desperate need to  increase  the                                                                    
number of troopers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:17:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Sullivan-Leonard    asked   for    further                                                                    
information  regarding the  radio replacement  noted on  the                                                                    
slide [Slide  18]. Commissioner Price deferred  the question                                                                    
to the deputy commissioner.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:18:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEON  MORGAN,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  PUBLIC                                                                    
SAFETY,  replied that  the [$500  thousand] UGF  request was                                                                    
necessary to replace  50 portable and 63  vehicle radios. He                                                                    
elaborated that 10 percent of  the portable radios were kept                                                                    
on  reserve  for  repairs and  replacement.  Both  types  of                                                                    
radios were  10 to  15 years  old and were  in a   break fix                                                                    
mode; they were unrepairable if broken.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked  whether the  request  for  aircraft                                                                    
equipment on slide 18 was  for Instrument Flight Rules (IFR)                                                                    
instruments.  Mr. Morgan  responded in  the affirmative  and                                                                    
elucidated that  the request  was specifically  for aircraft                                                                    
flying  in   Class  C   airspace  for   Automatic  Dependent                                                                    
Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) compliance.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:20:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  continued to  slide 19  titled  Supplemental                                                                    
Bill: Department of Revenue:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $854.4 UGF, ($400.0 Other)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Taxation and Treasury, Tax Division                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           Tax Revenue Management System maintenance and                                                                        
           support costs: $400.0 UGF, ($400.0 Other)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
           Tax subject matter experts, economic and legal                                                                       
           analysis (FY20-FY22): $350.0 UGF                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
           Administration and Support, Commissioner's                                                                           
           Office Technology refresh and space utilization                                                                      
           and planning: $104.4 UGF                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked what  type  of  tax subject  matter                                                                    
experts  the Department  of Revenue  (DOR)  was hiring.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  replied that  the DOR  was looking  for economic                                                                    
and  legal experts  to assist  existing  staff in  analyzing                                                                    
areas  of taxation  that DOR  might need  to examine  in the                                                                    
coming  months. Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked  whether the  state                                                                    
currently  lacked  the  necessary level  of  expertise.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger responded  in the affirmative and  furthered that                                                                    
the experts would assist existing staff.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool asked why DOR  was planning to engage in                                                                    
tax research and what the administration was anticipating.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:22:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BARNHILL,  DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,                                                                    
spoke candidly.  He announced that the  department hoped the                                                                    
legislature  would  be  interested  in  taking  up  new  tax                                                                    
measures,   specifically  a   sales   tax.  Currently,   the                                                                    
department did not have the  expertise within the department                                                                    
to develop  or analyze tax  measures. He also  indicated the                                                                    
need for economic  experts to analyze the  impacts taxes had                                                                    
on the economy.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:23:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger advanced  to slide  20 titled   Supplemental                                                                    
Bill: Dept. of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOT):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Operating Total: $7,050.0 DGF                                                                                              
     Capital Total: $5,000.0 DGF, $3,155.0 Other                                                                                
     Operating                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Administration and Support, Measurement Standards                                                                     
       Replace capital funding with unified carrier                                                                             
          registration receipts: fund source change                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           Marine Highway System, Marine Vessel                                                                                 
               Operations Maintain AMHS vessel operations:                                                                      
               $7,050.0 DGF                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Capital                                                                                                               
               AMHS vessel overhaul:$5,000.0 DGF                                                                                
            DPS patrol vehicles: $3,155.0 Other                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:24:53 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:25:24 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked  what the $7 million in  DGF was. Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  responded  that  both   operating,  and  the  $5                                                                    
million  DGF capital  appropriation  requests  were for  the                                                                    
Marine Highway Fund. He explained  that system receipts were                                                                    
deposited into the fund along  with occasional deposits from                                                                    
other  sources. Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  for the  balance of                                                                    
the  fund.  Mr.  Steininger  offered  to  provide  the  fund                                                                    
balance later, when known. Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked if the $7                                                                    
million   would  facilitate   an   expanded  schedule.   Mr.                                                                    
Steininger responded  that the  funds would  not be  used to                                                                    
expand  services but  to ensure  the published  schedule was                                                                    
met. He noted  that there were unforeseen  cost increases in                                                                    
fuel costs and repairs  and in chartered vessels. Vice-Chair                                                                    
Ortiz asked  if the  capital request of  $5 million  was for                                                                    
vessel repair.  Mr. Steininger answered in  the affirmative.                                                                    
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked how much  the $5 million  would help                                                                    
with needed repairs.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:28:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOM  PANNONE, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF TRANSPORTATION  AND PUBLIC  FACILITIES, replied  that the                                                                    
capital request  represented increased additional  costs for                                                                    
the current fiscal years capital overhaul work.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Knopp asked if the  $5 million applied to one                                                                    
vessel or  for several  vessels. Mr. Pannone  responded that                                                                    
the M\V Le  Conte had a significant  amount of unanticipated                                                                    
rusted  steel,  the  M\V  Columbia   had  rudder,  hub,  and                                                                    
vibration  issues, and  additional repairs  were needed  for                                                                    
the M\V  Kennecott and  M\V Tustumena.  Representative Knopp                                                                    
asked whether the funding would  get the vessels back online                                                                    
and if the vessels would operate  in FY 21 after the repairs                                                                    
were  completed. Mr.  Pannone  responded  that the  specific                                                                    
request would  help to get  the vessel  up to speed  for the                                                                    
remainder  of  the  year to  meet  the  already  established                                                                    
schedule. Representative  Knopp asked  if the  vessels would                                                                    
operate in  FY 21. He  noted that  the FY 21  Marine Highway                                                                    
funding  did  not increase.  Mr.  Pannone  replied that  the                                                                    
vessels would  operate in FY  21. He notified  the committee                                                                    
that  the  governors  proposed  FY  21  budget contained  an                                                                    
increased  request  of  $4.7  million.  The  department  was                                                                    
working  with   the  legislature  to  identify   the  marine                                                                    
highways capital and operating needs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Knopp continued his  questioning with the DPS                                                                    
patrol vehicle request.  He wondered why the  request was so                                                                    
large. He recalled that replacement  was achieved in cycles.                                                                    
Mr. Steininger  responded that the increase  corresponded to                                                                    
the  increased  number  of  troopers.  Representative  Knopp                                                                    
asked  whether  the  funding  was   for  new  vehicles.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger answered that the money  was for some replacement                                                                    
vehicles  as  well  as  new   vehicles  for  the  additional                                                                    
troopers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  had  another question  regarding  DPS                                                                    
vehicles. He  wondered what the "Other"  funding source was.                                                                    
Mr.  Steininger  replied that  the  funding  source was  the                                                                    
Highway  Equipment Working  Capital Fund.  He detailed  that                                                                    
agencies  contributed   to  the   fund  and   the  Statewide                                                                    
Equipment  Fleet  (SEF) tracked  how  much  each agency  was                                                                    
paying for  its vehicles, which  built up a credit  for each                                                                    
agency. The $3.155 million  was additional authorization for                                                                    
DPS to  access more of its  credit than was allotted  for in                                                                    
the  FY 20  budget. Representative  LeBon inferred  that DOT                                                                    
purchased  the patrol  vehicles for  DPS who  repaid DOT  in                                                                    
payments.  Mr.  Steininger  responded  in  the  affirmative.                                                                    
Representative   LeBon   asked   if  capital   monies   were                                                                    
determined on an annual basis.  Mr. Steininger affirmed that                                                                    
they were amortized on an annual basis from the SEF.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked whether the  current balance                                                                    
of the Marine Highway Fund  was enough for the operating and                                                                    
capital   DGF  request.   Mr.  Pannone   responded  in   the                                                                    
affirmative.  Representative  Josephson surmised  that  they                                                                    
were  asking  for authority  to  spend  from the  fund.  Mr.                                                                    
Pannone   answered   in  the   affirmative.   Representative                                                                    
Josephson  found  it frustrating  given  the  status of  the                                                                    
affairs  with the  state's marine  highway  vessels that  an                                                                    
 open  dialogue  regarding collecting revenue from  the fund                                                                    
 when it was needed did not happen.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:36:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool asked  about patrol  vehicles owned  by                                                                    
DOT and  used by DPS. He  asked whether it was  the same for                                                                    
DPS airplanes.  Mr. Steininger answered in  the negative. He                                                                    
clarified  that   it  only   applied  to   patrol  vehicles.                                                                    
Representative Wool  asked if airplanes  were in  a separate                                                                    
category. Mr. Steininger replied in the affirmative.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked about  the  balance  of the  Marine                                                                    
Highway  Fund.  Mr. Pannone  replied  that  the balance  was                                                                    
approximately $23  million. Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  for the                                                                    
historical balance of the fund.  He inquired whether the $11                                                                    
million  remaining  balance  after  the  deductions  of  the                                                                    
supplemental appropriations  was typically low.  Mr. Pannone                                                                    
answered that he would follow up with the information.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked if  any of  the $7  million operating                                                                    
request  covered  revenue  lost  during  the  Alaska  Marine                                                                    
Highway  System (AMHS)  strike.  Mr.  Pannone answered  that                                                                    
during the strike AMHS refunded  $3.3 million for all fares,                                                                    
even  for future  fares due  to  passenger uncertainty.  The                                                                    
department did  not lose spending  authority in  the budget.                                                                    
He  delineated  that  the   strike  specific  related  costs                                                                    
totaled $2  million and  during the  strike AMHS  saved $1.2                                                                    
million. The  balance of  $800 thousand  was the  portion of                                                                    
the request for increased authority related to the strike.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  had  heard   that  some  of  the  $800                                                                    
thousand was for the purpose  of leasing other vehicles like                                                                    
barges  and other  vessels.  Mr. Pannone  did  not have  the                                                                    
figures relating  to the costs  he was referring to.  He was                                                                    
uncertain whether  the monies Representative  Wool mentioned                                                                    
were  built into  the  supplemental request.  Representative                                                                    
Wool asked about how the  vessel rentals worked. Mr. Pannone                                                                    
acknowledged that  there had been  some ferry runs  in which                                                                    
the  AMHS had  hired  commercial providers  but was  unaware                                                                    
that  vessel  lease  costs were  part  of  the  supplemental                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnston clarified  that  the  $7 million  request                                                                    
would  be used  to pay  for  a portion  of the  cost of  the                                                                    
strike  and  to fulfill  the  current  years  schedule.  Mr.                                                                    
Pannone  responded  in  the affirmative.  Co-Chair  Johnston                                                                    
asked for a breakdown of the $7 million.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pannone listed a breakdown  of the $7 million request as                                                                    
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
         $800 thousand in increased authority  related to                                                                    
          the strike                                                                                                            
         $1.6 million in higher operating cost for the M\V                                                                   
          Columbia  related  to  the M\V  Matanuska  project                                                                    
          delays (repower and major conversion)                                                                                 
         $1.5 million of additional costs related  to the                                                                    
          M\V  Matanuska project  delays for  wages, travel,                                                                    
          and per diem                                                                                                          
         $200 thousand was added service to  the Northern                                                                    
          Panhandle  including costs  to operate  the Angoon                                                                    
          ramp                                                                                                                  
         $110 thousand to Haines for the ALCAN 200 event.                                                                    
         $400 thousand service to Prince Rupert including                                                                    
          10  roundtrips in  the  current  fiscal year.  The                                                                    
          amount  also  included  $207  thousand  for  Royal                                                                    
          Canadian   mounted   Police  for   customs.   $193                                                                    
         thousand included for fuel terminal staff                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  indicated  that roundtrips  to  Prince  Rupert                                                                    
would occur in May and June  of 2020 and two had occurred in                                                                    
October and November of 2019.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  requested a handout of  the cost breakdown.                                                                    
[SEE DRAFT  HANDOUT -  Change Record Detail  - DOT  (copy on                                                                    
file)]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:44:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pannone continued with the $7 million cost breakdown:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         $1.8 million was for fuel increases.  Fuel costs                                                                    
          were  projected on  average  at  $2.36 per  gallon                                                                    
          which  increased to  $2.50  per  gallon. The  AMHS                                                                    
          used  8.5  million gallons  of  fuel  per year  on                                                                    
          average.                                                                                                              
         $400 thousand related to  an underestimation  of                                                                    
          the  required crew  for the  M\V  Tazlina for  per                                                                    
          diem and lodging.                                                                                                     
         $250 thousand for the economic reshaping study.                                                                     
Co-Chair Johnston commented on  fuel costs. She guessed that                                                                    
the service cuts would have  reduced fuel costs. Mr. Pannone                                                                    
answered that the  budget cut included fuel  costs. The fuel                                                                    
increases happened during the FY 20 fiscal year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson deemed  that  much  of the  marine                                                                    
highway  revenue was  made  in the  summer  via tourism.  He                                                                    
asked whether the  administration had a plan  to capture the                                                                    
increased  revenue with  enough ferry  service to  bring the                                                                    
tourists  to   Alaska.  Mr.   Pannone  responded   that  the                                                                    
supplemental  request provided  the  AMHS  with the  maximum                                                                    
level of service  it could provide for the  remainder of the                                                                    
fiscal year. The  service for the following  fiscal year was                                                                    
under discussion. Representative Josephson  did not have any                                                                    
sense  of what  the funding  was  going to  allow for  ferry                                                                    
service. He  deduced that the  AMHS  budget  was suffocated                                                                     
and caused the  current situation and was not just  due to a                                                                    
series of  misfortunes, miscalculations, and the  strike. He                                                                    
suggested  the events  were related  to the  budget cut.  He                                                                    
asked for comment.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger responded  that many  of the  factors listed                                                                    
contributed  to  the  $7 million  request,  which  would  be                                                                    
smaller without  them. He relayed  that much of  the request                                                                    
was to  provide the service  that was planned.  He countered                                                                    
the idea that  the need was a result of  the previous year's                                                                    
budget reductions.  He concluded  that the situation  had to                                                                    
do with unexpected items. He  added that the capital request                                                                    
was  caused  by  identifying  issues   that  could  only  be                                                                    
discovered during  a layup period.  Representative Josephson                                                                    
contended  that   the  ferry  service  began   in  1962  and                                                                    
unanticipated  events  were  commonplace. He  believed  that                                                                    
 something  different  affected  the  system and  he  had  a                                                                    
good sense of what that is.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:49:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  clarified  what  the money  was  for.  He                                                                    
voiced  that the  state went  into the  current fiscal  year                                                                    
with a $40 million reduction  to AMHS after many prior years                                                                    
of cuts.  The significantly  reduced schedule  of operations                                                                    
reflected the  $40 million reduction.  He surmised  that Mr.                                                                    
Steininger maintained that the  supplemental request was for                                                                    
the purpose of meeting  the  significantly reduced schedule                                                                     
that had  been put  forth by AMHS.  Mr. Pannone  answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.  Vice-Chair Ortiz asked that  by adding the                                                                    
funding, the  state would  not receive  additional services.                                                                    
Rather, the post budget cut  schedule would be restored. Mr.                                                                    
Pannone responded in the affirmative.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sullivan-Leonard mentioned  the $200 thousand                                                                    
for the  Haines  event. She  asked for more information. Mr.                                                                    
Pannone  replied  that  extra  trips were  made  to  collect                                                                    
additional revenue. He offered to provide more information.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:52:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  determined   that   some   of  the   AMHS                                                                    
supplemental requests would recur.  He inquired whether some                                                                    
of the items were added to  the FY 21 budget. Mr. Steininger                                                                    
responded that any items of  a recurring nature was added to                                                                    
the  FY 21  budget. He  corrected  that the  balance in  the                                                                    
Marine Highway  Fund was $30 million.  Co-Chair Foster noted                                                                    
that  the  budget detail  document  Mr.  Pannone was  citing                                                                    
included $100 thousand for the  ALCAN 200 snow machine race.                                                                    
Mr. Pannone  replied that he  mistakenly named  the location                                                                    
of  the  race and  was  the  same race  that  Representative                                                                    
Sullivan-Leonard   referred  to.   He  would   provide  more                                                                    
information later.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:54:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger moved to slide  21 titled: Supplemental Bill:                                                                    
Fund Capitalization and Transfers:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
    Fund Capitalization: Total $600.0 UGF, $3,000.0 Fed                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Capital                                                                                                               
           Election Fund - FY20 capitalization of the                                                                           
           Election Fund with federal receipts: $600.0 UGF,                                                                     
           $3,000.0 Fed                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Transfers: Total $1,100.0 deposit into General                                                                        
     Fund                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           Undesignated Reserve (UGF out), AHFC Subsidiary                                                                      
           Fund Transfer balance of AHCC account to the                                                                         
           General Fund: $1,100.0 fund transfer                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger   explained    that   the   election   fund                                                                    
capitalization was related to  the election security item he                                                                    
mentioned on a prior slide  [slide 14]. He reported that the                                                                    
Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation (AHFC) fund  balance was                                                                    
relatively  small  and  required  administrative  costs  and                                                                    
staff   time   to   maintain  the   fund   separately.   The                                                                    
administration wanted to close the fund.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked for  history of the fund. Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  thought that  the simplest  way  to provide  the                                                                    
information  would be  in writing.  Representative Josephson                                                                    
perceived that the state was $1.1 million richer.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:56:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked whether it was  conceivable that                                                                    
the  AHFC  Subsidiary  Fund   contained  AHFC  receipts  and                                                                    
represented cash  inflow to  the agency  and its  source was                                                                    
external. Mr.  Steininger understood  that the fund  was not                                                                    
comprised  of   revenue;  it  contained  funds   from  other                                                                    
sources.  Representative LeBon  cited the  AHCC account  and                                                                    
asked  for clarification  that  it  was not  a  typo on  the                                                                    
slide.  Mr. Steininger  specified  that  the Alaska  Housing                                                                    
Capital  Corporation account  was  an  account that  existed                                                                    
within  AHFC  and  was  one   of  its  subsidiary  accounts.                                                                    
Representative  LeBon asked  whether AHFC  generated revenue                                                                    
from    its   loans.    Mr.   Steininger    responded   that                                                                    
Representative LeBon  was correct but, the  AHCC account was                                                                    
not related to loan activity.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  addressed  slide  22  titled   Supplemental                                                                    
Bill: Special Appropriations and Capital Items:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Special Appropriations: Total $131.7 UGF                                                                                   
          Judgments, Settlements, and Claims                                                                                    
     FY2020 judgments, settlements, and claims: $131.7 UGF                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Capital: Total $4,852.9 deposit into General Fund                                                                          
          Capital                                                                                                               
     Repeals: $4,398.6 UGF                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger noted that there  were various capital budget                                                                    
repeals where  remaining balances of finished  projects were                                                                    
identified. The specific project  detail was included in the                                                                    
bill and back up materials.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  returned to  slide 3.  He referred  to the                                                                    
$238.8 million  reduction between  FY 19 to  FY 20  noted on                                                                    
the  slide. He  listed  the budget  reductions amounting  to                                                                    
$273 million.  He wondered whether an  estimated $35 million                                                                    
was increased across the budget.  Mr. Steininger answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston  referred to the Supplemental  Bill detail                                                                    
spreadsheet  (copy on  file).  She  requested more  detailed                                                                    
information  regarding  items  on  page  9.  Mr.  Steininger                                                                    
explained   that   the   items  were   ratifications   where                                                                    
expenditures  were  greater  than  anticipated  revenue  and                                                                    
agreed to provide additional information.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnston also requested  more details regarding the                                                                    
repealed  capital projects.  Mr.  Steininger responded  that                                                                    
the repealed  projects were in  the language section  of the                                                                    
bill and backup. He agreed to provide more information.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:02:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster  had   a   question  regarding   community                                                                    
assistance.  He  remarked  that   the  governor  vetoed  $30                                                                    
million in  FY 20. He asked  if the governor had  a position                                                                    
on  a possible  inclusion by  the legislature  of additional                                                                    
funding for  community assistance. Mr. Steininger  could not                                                                    
speak to other items that might be added to the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HB  234  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  reviewed  the  agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:03:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:03 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
02.05.2020 HFC FY20 Supplemental Presentation.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234
HB 234 Overview HFIN Supporting Document 2.5.20.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234
FY2020SuppSpreadsheet_2-5-20.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234
FY2020SuppSummary_2-5-20.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234
HB 234 OMB Response Recruitment Expenses021720.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234
HB 234 Response OMB AMHS Fund Balance021720.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234
HB 234 Response to HFC Qs OMB 2-5mtg 021720.pdf HFIN 2/5/2020 1:30:00 PM
HB 234